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lol at me....
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:57 pm
by Torniquet
This is how much i know about computers :s
ok windows been running crappy for a while..... 1st i thought it was the HDDs failing on me (wrong)
then thought it was the fact i had a naff processor, so was set to spend 100 quid on a new mobo n proc. (i would have been gutted if i did lol)
turns out... i had 3gb of ram... which i obviously knew about as i bought them lol...
little did i know... one was 800mhz the other 2 were 666 mhz... i only learnt tonight that this was my issue... lol. so i have had to remove the 2 666 sticks and order another 2 gb of ram at the right speed XD
im lucky i spoke to the person i did when i did... or i would have been alot worse off cuz instead of only needing to spend 35 quid.. i would have dished out the 100 and then had to stil find out wht was wrong, then if i did find out i would have discovered i would have had to spend a further 45ish quid on each new stick of ram... XD
n e ways jus thought i would let everyone have a giggle :p
<3
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:31 pm
by D3luxe
That really shouldnt affect your performance that much..Especially if you have your 2 666mhz rams in slots 1 and 2 (slot 1 is closest to the processor), and the 800 in slot 3. The only effect that would have is that your 800mhz would be brought down to 666mhz.
If you had the 800 in slot 1 it could cause problems, but you may be able to fix it by just rearranging the RAM instead of buying more 800mhz.
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:04 am
by rockinliam
awww well atleast you got it functioning.
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 12:19 pm
by Torniquet
D3luxe wrote:That really shouldnt affect your performance that much..Especially if you have your 2 666mhz rams in slots 1 and 2 (slot 1 is closest to the processor), and the 800 in slot 3. The only effect that would have is that your 800mhz would be brought down to 666mhz.
If you had the 800 in slot 1 it could cause problems, but you may be able to fix it by just rearranging the RAM instead of buying more 800mhz.
oh really??
i got told that your ram speed should match your processor FBS speed
EDIT ~~
just put the other 2 sticks back in, with the 666's in slot 1 n 2. it seems to have gone back to its old ways of bein extreemly slow, and folders (not functioning) when i open them up.
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:28 pm
by D3luxe
Torniquet wrote:D3luxe wrote:That really shouldnt affect your performance that much..Especially if you have your 2 666mhz rams in slots 1 and 2 (slot 1 is closest to the processor), and the 800 in slot 3. The only effect that would have is that your 800mhz would be brought down to 666mhz.
If you had the 800 in slot 1 it could cause problems, but you may be able to fix it by just rearranging the RAM instead of buying more 800mhz.
oh really??
i got told that your ram speed should match your processor FBS speed
EDIT ~~
just put the other 2 sticks back in, with the 666's in slot 1 n 2. it seems to have gone back to its old ways of bein extreemly slow, and folders (not functioning) when i open them up.
If you plan on OCing your hardware or anything then yes, its best for your RAM to match your FBS speed. Otherwise it doesn't matter and won't cause noticeable slowdowns.
And what that sounds like is that some of your ram is bad, not just mismatched. Mismatched ram should not cause that big of a slow down, but that sounds exactly like bad ram.
By the way, read this. If you understand it at all, you'll get the info you need. If you dont understand it, let me know and I'll dumb it down if I can.
Actually, for a 1:1 ratio on a 1066FSB, you want DDR2-533. This is quite a bit slower than most current RAM, so 800MHz is actually above a 1:1 ratio in this case (which isn't something to worry about, honestly). The reason you want the RAM speed to be half of the effective FSB speed for a 1:1 ratio is because the RAM is dual data rate, meaning that the effective transfer rate (which is the reported frequency in most cases) is twice the true clock. Therefore, the true clock on DDR2-533 is 266MHz. The front side bus on all modern Intel CPUs (aside from the i7 of course) is quad pumped however. This means that it effectively transfers four times per clock cycle, and therefore, the effective transfer rate (the reported frequency) is four times the speed of the actual clock. Therefore, FSB-1066 has a true clock speed of 266MHz, just like the DDR2-533 mentioned above.
Now, as for the benefit of running 1:1? There isn't that much of a benefit at all, to be perfectly honest. You don't want to run slower than a 1:1 ratio, but running faster doesn't really harm (or help) things much in any way. Basically, 800MHz RAM is fine all the way up to FSB 1600.
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:06 pm
by Torniquet
D3luxe wrote:Torniquet wrote:D3luxe wrote:That really shouldnt affect your performance that much..Especially if you have your 2 666mhz rams in slots 1 and 2 (slot 1 is closest to the processor), and the 800 in slot 3. The only effect that would have is that your 800mhz would be brought down to 666mhz.
If you had the 800 in slot 1 it could cause problems, but you may be able to fix it by just rearranging the RAM instead of buying more 800mhz.
oh really??
i got told that your ram speed should match your processor FBS speed
EDIT ~~
just put the other 2 sticks back in, with the 666's in slot 1 n 2. it seems to have gone back to its old ways of bein extreemly slow, and folders (not functioning) when i open them up.
If you plan on OCing your hardware or anything then yes, its best for your RAM to match your FBS speed. Otherwise it doesn't matter and won't cause noticeable slowdowns.
And what that sounds like is that some of your ram is bad, not just mismatched. Mismatched ram should not cause that big of a slow down, but that sounds exactly like bad ram.
By the way, read this. If you understand it at all, you'll get the info you need. If you dont understand it, let me know and I'll dumb it down if I can.
Actually, for a 1:1 ratio on a 1066FSB, you want DDR2-533. This is quite a bit slower than most current RAM, so 800MHz is actually above a 1:1 ratio in this case (which isn't something to worry about, honestly). The reason you want the RAM speed to be half of the effective FSB speed for a 1:1 ratio is because the RAM is dual data rate, meaning that the effective transfer rate (which is the reported frequency in most cases) is twice the true clock. Therefore, the true clock on DDR2-533 is 266MHz. The front side bus on all modern Intel CPUs (aside from the i7 of course) is quad pumped however. This means that it effectively transfers four times per clock cycle, and therefore, the effective transfer rate (the reported frequency) is four times the speed of the actual clock. Therefore, FSB-1066 has a true clock speed of 266MHz, just like the DDR2-533 mentioned above.
Now, as for the benefit of running 1:1? There isn't that much of a benefit at all, to be perfectly honest. You don't want to run slower than a 1:1 ratio, but running faster doesn't really harm (or help) things much in any way. Basically, 800MHz RAM is fine all the way up to FSB 1600.
yeah i think i undertsand it.
well i ordered my extra 2gbs of ram. i was lookin at gettin a amd athlon 64x2 chip. but was told not to cuz it has an increased bus speed of 1000mhz which would meen new ram.
if you are confident that this is how it really is and wont wank my comp up n e more than it is now lol. i may get one. gotta be better thn the sempron 3200+ im using XD
Re: lol at me....
Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:19 pm
by Falken
Torniquet wrote:D3luxe wrote:Torniquet wrote:
oh really??
i got told that your ram speed should match your processor FBS speed
EDIT ~~
just put the other 2 sticks back in, with the 666's in slot 1 n 2. it seems to have gone back to its old ways of bein extreemly slow, and folders (not functioning) when i open them up.
If you plan on OCing your hardware or anything then yes, its best for your RAM to match your FBS speed. Otherwise it doesn't matter and won't cause noticeable slowdowns.
And what that sounds like is that some of your ram is bad, not just mismatched. Mismatched ram should not cause that big of a slow down, but that sounds exactly like bad ram.
By the way, read this. If you understand it at all, you'll get the info you need. If you dont understand it, let me know and I'll dumb it down if I can.
Actually, for a 1:1 ratio on a 1066FSB, you want DDR2-533. This is quite a bit slower than most current RAM, so 800MHz is actually above a 1:1 ratio in this case (which isn't something to worry about, honestly). The reason you want the RAM speed to be half of the effective FSB speed for a 1:1 ratio is because the RAM is dual data rate, meaning that the effective transfer rate (which is the reported frequency in most cases) is twice the true clock. Therefore, the true clock on DDR2-533 is 266MHz. The front side bus on all modern Intel CPUs (aside from the i7 of course) is quad pumped however. This means that it effectively transfers four times per clock cycle, and therefore, the effective transfer rate (the reported frequency) is four times the speed of the actual clock. Therefore, FSB-1066 has a true clock speed of 266MHz, just like the DDR2-533 mentioned above.
Now, as for the benefit of running 1:1? There isn't that much of a benefit at all, to be perfectly honest. You don't want to run slower than a 1:1 ratio, but running faster doesn't really harm (or help) things much in any way. Basically, 800MHz RAM is fine all the way up to FSB 1600.
yeah i think i undertsand it.
well i ordered my extra 2gbs of ram. i was lookin at gettin a amd athlon 64x2 chip. but was told not to cuz it has an increased bus speed of 1000mhz which would meen new ram.
if you are confident that this is how it really is and wont wank my comp up n e more than it is now lol. i may get one. gotta be better thn the sempron 3200+ im using XD
Haha even my server is almost faster than your PC. It got a AMD Athlon X2 3000+

Soon getting another server with a P4 3.2Ghz for free
