Jeelloow!

[Elvar]

So i thought, now that i've actually already been getting some help, from the fine Jackolantern lad, i thought the least i could do was to introduce my self.

My name is Martin, often referred to as Elvar(part norwegian), i live Copenhagen, Denmark. Currently i am studying my fourth semester in Computer Science. The days i am not in school, which is next time never , i work as Drupal Developer where i (think) learn a lot more.

So i guess my interest for game development first started when i learned PHP, like 4 years ago, where i spend loads of my spare time working on a huge browser game. Unfortunately i dropped the project as i realized that making a project of that size in procedural PHP, well.. just don't, i remember my index.php just around 3000 lines of code, jeee..

These days i am working on a project using ImpactJS, which i have found using very delight! Hopefully i will soon have time to look on unity, which i find very interesting.

That's it now!

Regards
Elvar

[Jackolantern]

Welcome, and glad I was able to help! And yeah, I experienced the same wall trying to write procedural "all-in-one-pot" PHP applications. The code just grew out of control, and it was so hopelessly coupled that a single change in one script would cause a cascade of breaks running through everything. There really is a lot of wisdom in separation of concerns in web applications. MVC on the back-end, and MVC or MVVM on the front end (if enough front-end code warrants it).

Glad you are aboard on the forums

[hallsofvallhalla]

Welcome!

[Elvar]

Thank you

Jacko, exactly, at some point you just gotta throw in the towel, or start all over, which i did, but lost interest meanwhile. Since i've tryed Codeigniter which is decent, also i have been playing around with Symfony2, which is like walking into a wall, the learning curve is so steep.. Hopefully the pain is easing when you have climbed the mountain top!

[Jackolantern]

I had the same thing with Symfony, and lost interest in it. If I remember right, that is the framework that uses tons of YAML for config files, which just made no sense to me. Yes, they are very readable, but why pile another standard on people and force them to learn it just to make config files? I like CodeIgniter since it is really light-weight and you can basically use it how you want, but if you are looking for something more, such as scaffolding tools, built-in unit testing, theming, etc., then check out Yii. It strikes a pretty good middle-ground between the super light-weight CodeIgniter and the much heavier, high learning-curve frameworks like Symfony and Zend. It has an impressive list of features, and since it is a newer framework, it was built from the ground up to work well with Web 2.0-style front-end code. I was really getting into it before I changed directions away from PHP (at least for the time being) and back into Windows world lol.

[Elvar]

Well Symfony 2 doesn't require you to use YAML for configuration, you can use xml or php as well, however it's strongly recommended, and not that complex . Still, there is loads of configuration files.
I like Codeigniter for that reason aswell, but i fell like, you are not given that much, a mix between between Symfony2 and Codeigniter would make my day, are you saying its Yii i am looking for?
I gotta admit, i have found growing interest in node, after i begun using it as game server, for my tower defense game. So i thought i would look at BackboneJS for the serverside of the game (Lobbt etc.).

[Jackolantern]

Of course everyone is going to have a different perspective going into a new framework, but I really liked Yii and found it to be a combination of the easy-to-use CI, while having a healthy dose of the tools and added functionality of Symfony2. It has some nice, easy-to-use scaffolding tools like most other modern frameworks, but packs them into a web-based tool instead of forcing you to use a command-line tool like Zend and others do.

If you are wanting more code support than CI offers, but don't want the bulky complexity of Symfony and are plan to have a lot of client-side code running, I would definitely check out Yii!

[theweirdn8]

Welcome to the forums, make great things man!

[Shihonoryu]

Welcome to the family im sure you'll love it here!

You're interested in Unity? awesome! thats what i am currently using now.

[SpiritWebb]

Welcome, glad to have you!!