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jpoisson · Post by **jpoisson** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:09 pm

It looks like my plans for web development are out of the picture but I got accepted into 3 different gaming development programs and a CPA program... I am having a tough time deciding what to choose. one thing all programs include is two web design courses.

I guess Location is a factor I am waiting for a last acceptance letter hopefully i get to it but as for now just have the other four.

Post by **hallsofvallhalla** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:58 pm

why would your plans for web development be out of the picture?

Web development is always important no matter what type of game or applications you are working on. wow doesnt have anything to do with the web but they still have to have a rocking website.

Plus alot of games are moving to instant playability on the web,. Its the future.

Post by **Jackolantern** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:15 pm

Unless you really enjoy the act of accounting, don't take the CPA. Tons of people get into accounting for the money, and they are miserable within a year or two and want to change careers. However, some people really do love it and cannot picture themselves doing anything else.

I also would have to recommend against game courses. There is no set standard in game development course work right now, so colleges are just stuffing their own personal degree program with filler and things you will never need. My college has a game music production class if you are wanting a degree in game programming. What?! Each school I have seen has about 40% filler in their game design courses. If you were to just take standard programming course work for a CIS degree, you will be a much better programmer by the time you get out of school. However, if you are wanting to do something in the game industry besides program (which is the easiest to get in to), find a school that specializes in that aspect and go there. Just know that there is no standard curriculum.

Post by **SpiritWebb** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:19 pm

My mother just graduated with a degree in "Game Art and Design." Shes hoping to get into a job where she can use that degree, whether it be designing the artwork for games, or in movies. She is trying for either side. Movies as in 3d animated (ie: Ice Age, Robots, etc)

Post by **Jackolantern** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:18 pm

SpiritWebb wrote:My mother just graduated with a degree in "Game Art and Design." Shes hoping to get into a job where she can use that degree, whether it be designing the artwork for games, or in movies. She is trying for either side. Movies as in 3d animated (ie: Ice Age, Robots, etc)

The art side of game development degrees is a bit more clearly defined than the other aspects. I mean, you have modeling, texturing, rigging, etc., all of which has been taught in schools for years. The problem is mostly in the "game design" and "game programming" spheres, which are both fairly new, unstandardized, and fairly confused.

Post by **hallsofvallhalla** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:48 pm

yeah not to many years ago there was no such thing as game degrees, yet people still worked for game companies. Its all about the money for these colleges. Get a degree in computer science so you have multiple options. Game companies don't exactly require a game development degree.

Post by **Jackolantern** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:41 pm

hallsofvallhalla wrote:yeah not to many years ago there was no such thing as game degrees, yet people still worked for game companies. Its all about the money for these colleges. Get a degree in computer science so you have multiple options. Game companies don't exactly require a game development degree.

Exactly. And in fact, someone with a game development degree could be passed over for a standard computer science: software engineering degree because the latter is more likely to have had standards in coding during their education.

jpoisson · Post by **jpoisson** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:12 am

Well this didn't help... lol.

But seriously Umm getting a degree in cpa would not help me in accounting. plus i am using all these as my introductory programs for my Compsci degree. I just was trying to debate what would be more fun. I think I am going to go to one in Toronto Probably George Brown College, There Game programming program is a generalization in the first year where as when you go to year two you branch off into a specialization weather it is modeling and design or animation and such. SO yes their is no standard but if you can specialize in a area and have the experience of working with people on projects and create some games for your portfolio, I think those would be the best.

And working in the digital world it is experience you need that accounts for 90% of the hiring, the other 10% you have to work your ass off to get. I still got about another 10 - 15 years of schooling left anyways

So I do agree with everyone and their opinions but Again s such none of you are really giving me any positive advice but more negative. Thank for the advice I think I have made my choice. But I am just waiting a few more days trying to weight out my options

Post by **Jackolantern** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:11 pm

jpoisson wrote:Well this didn't help... lol.

But seriously Umm getting a degree in cpa would not help me in accounting. plus i am using all these as my introductory programs for my Compsci degree. I just was trying to debate what would be more fun. I think I am going to go to one in Toronto Probably George Brown College, There Game programming program is a generalization in the first year where as when you go to year two you branch off into a specialization weather it is modeling and design or animation and such. SO yes their is no standard but if you can specialize in a area and have the experience of working with people on projects and create some games for your portfolio, I think those would be the best.

And working in the digital world it is experience you need that accounts for 90% of the hiring, the other 10% you have to work your ass off to get. I still got about another 10 - 15 years of schooling left anyways So I do agree with everyone and their opinions but Again s such none of you are really giving me any positive advice but more negative. Thank for the advice I think I have made my choice. But I am just waiting a few more days trying to weight out my options

Sorry, what CPA are you referring to? I thought you meant Certified Personal Accountant above.

Post by **hallsofvallhalla** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:24 pm

i didn't mean for my advice to sound negative. I meant it positive. You can go to school for whatever you like. My advice though is to always have a back up. You never know how the job market is and what might help you later. Also college courses mean squat when you get in the real world. You could take a semesters worth of carpentry but that doesn't make you a carpenter.

It's really coming to the point where degrees mean very little also. Sure they help but its the knowledge in the end. This is also positive. Remember to take the classes that will teach you what you wanna know so you have the knowledge and not some piece of paper.

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