i need a new gfx card.

[Falken]

Doesn't matter what you buy. The 275 will remain the best value. Id go for the stretch and get it. If you want to be cheap The best foor around 100$ I could recommend would be the Radeon HD5770. Although it may go fast, don't expect the quality you get with nVidia. I also heard that new 5000 series from radeon have really noisy fans. But they do support DX11.

Thats so much rumors, the 5000 series is great, actually installed a 5770 just a few hours ago in a friends computer. Altho it came with a custom fan. I never had any trouble with either Nvidia or ATI. And looking back just about a year, wasn't it nvidia that had millions of broken chips for the 9000 cards (mostly laptop but still nvidia "quality"...)?

In most cases a ATI card is more bang for the buck as nvidia tend to smack so damn many transistors and build large GPU's to make them powerful, but that also increase the price alot. Altho will be intresting to see how the Nvidia Fermi performance and price

But it all depends, when the 8800GT card came Nvidia was kicking ATI's ass and now with the delayed fermi release it is like the other way around. So just get whats best performance/$ at the moment

[Chris]

Doesn't matter what you buy. The 275 will remain the best value. Id go for the stretch and get it. If you want to be cheap The best foor around 100$ I could recommend would be the Radeon HD5770. Although it may go fast, don't expect the quality you get with nVidia. I also heard that new 5000 series from radeon have really noisy fans. But they do support DX11.

Thats so much rumors, the 5000 series is great, actually installed a 5770 just a few hours ago in a friends computer. Altho it came with a custom fan. I never had any trouble with either Nvidia or ATI. And looking back just about a year, wasn't it nvidia that had millions of broken chips for the 9000 cards (mostly laptop but still nvidia "quality"...)?

In most cases a ATI card is more bang for the buck as nvidia tend to smack so damn many transistors and build large GPU's to make them powerful, but that also increase the price alot. Altho will be intresting to see how the Nvidia Fermi performance and price

But it all depends, when the 8800GT card came Nvidia was kicking ATI's booty and now with the delayed fermi release it is like the other way around. So just get whats best performance/$ at the moment

I wasn't on about build quality, but okay you do have a point. My borthers old 8800GTS broke after like 3 months.

The visual qaulity of ATI is harsh, If I look at my brother, who currently has a radeon HD4890, and look at the quality of my GTX275. His is really harsh on the eyes, we both have the exact same monitor. ATI like to make things go fast and get good numbers, but they never go for the quality.

[Jackolantern]

Maybe I haven't played enough modern PC games, but honestly, I can't tell much of a difference between an ATI and NVidia card running the same game. Back a few years ago my fiancee was running ATI and I was running NVidia (roughly equivalent strength). We both played WoW, and her screen looked kind of "stretched" to me, even on all the exact same settings. However, that is likely just because I was used to the NVidia. On the other side, she said she didn't like how mine looked.

[Torniquet]

okies

i got lotsa numbers n letter that mean sod all to me now

but thanks lol. luckily i work for a comp refirbishment company, n we get alot of systems (or atleast did rofl) come through tht we have to scrap (xps systems etc) will see if i can find if they got n e of the suggested on their lists n see if i can get one from there ^^

[hallsofvallhalla]

ATI is garbage and doesnt support the indie cause. I hate ATI after reading many reports, blogs and interviews. This is only my personal opinion but they are a crap company that is only after your money. I will say this from all my computers I and my company has bought( which is around 20,000) ATI is prone to break very early on, Nvidia has an amazing lasting value.

Geforce 9800 is a hella alot more than you will ever need. Period.

These are only my onions.... or opinions.

[Jackolantern]

This is only my personal opinion but they are a crap company that is only after your money.

All companies are only after your money Anytime you see a company supporting some kind of cause, or something like that, it is always a calculated maneuver to try to get more business and more of your money.

[Falken]

ATI is garbage and doesnt support the indie cause. I hate ATI after reading many reports, blogs and interviews. This is only my personal opinion but they are a crap company that is only after your money. I will say this from all my computers I and my company has bought( which is around 20,000) ATI is prone to break very early on, Nvidia has an amazing lasting value.

Geforce 9800 is a hella alot more than you will ever need. Period.

These are only my onions.... or opinions.

Really don't agree, sure haven't read about the indie stuff about ATI/NVidia. Nvidia is trying to lock in it's customers, just look at this

Physics:
Nvidia: PhysX, Runs only on Nvidia cards, they even constantly block the possibility to have one ati and one nvidia card in same comp to use PhysX on the nvidia...
Ati: Havok, all companies can use this as long as they pay the makers of it.

GPGPU:
Nvidia: Cuda, only for nvidia cards
Ati: OpenCL, open source GPGPU framework

SLI/Crossfire
Nvidia: Motherboard manufacturers must use Nvidia chipset, except for Core i5/i7. Also blocks ATI crossfire on their chipsets just to annoy people...
Ati: Free for anyone to use Crossfire on their boards.

But ye the 3-4 year old ATI cards was not so good (the X serie) they had some primarely driver problems and such. But since the 3000 series it is very hard to see any quality difference between ati and nvidia.

But as Jackolantern said, all companies wants your money, thats their job.
And our job is to get the best product for the best price. And with all those fan boys buying only one card cause of the brand and not based on the quality/price/performance is just weird, but if they wanna throw their money to a big company just cause they are "Nice" sure do that, but next time consider giving them to charity instead

[hallsofvallhalla]

yeah had a bit of a buzz last night. Other than issues at work I haven't used a ATI card in years because of all the bad problems I had with them so they may have improved their line.